onemanbmwclub
Location : Whitstable Cars : BMW e12 M535i, BMW e34 Alpina B10, BMW e24 635csi, BMW e34 535ise Posts : 10 Occupation : Project Manager
| Subject: Will I ever finish this car and why do I listen to myself? Thu May 17, 2012 4:25 am | |
| Will I ever finish this car and why do I listen to myself? This is the story so far of my 1988 BMW Alpina B10
I bought this car in June 2010 with the intention of breaking it up and then Alpinaing my poorly 635. The car is a genuine Alpina B10, hadn’t turned a wheel in 4 or 5 years that I could ascertain, had all the cosmetic Alpina bits missing and was suffering from rot in some very strange places but did have the all important B10 engine, ecu and diff.
So all was going well with this idea until I read through the wad of history that came with the car and realized what I had was actually a lowish mileage car with buckets of history and it was the 3rd one built, Also a bog standard 535ise appeared on ebay in exactly the same colour with the same colour leather and a set of genuine Alpina wheels on it, so all ideas of only having two classics and not an insurmountable amount of work went out of the Window. I couldn’t bring myself to break it up and convinced myself it didn’t need a lot of work really.
In the making of this decision please be aware that at this time I had an e24 635 that had been cooked by the MOT man at it’s last MOT (he did pass it mind) caused by a weak viscous fan coupling which the B10 was supposed to be the donor for, that also really now needed some bodywork doing and either a mopping if I was lucky due to paint fade or a re-spray. And my e12 M535i that at this stage still needed a lot of welding to get through an MOT plus whatever else I found that needed doing.
I went from having two classics I couldn’t drive to now owning 3 and a donor that I still couldn’t drive, which I then proceeded in turning into lots of piles of classic car all over the garage, drive, shed and house.
I have to make clear here I have applied for Sainthood for the wife which the Vatican does have in it’s in tray.
The B10 had rot in both inner and outer front wings, both inner and outer cills, all the jacking points, the nearside front spring was snapped and the rear near side quarter panel was rotten under the petrol filler which someone had repaired with fiberglass. I have the original bill of sale for this car, someone spent just short of 50 grand for this car when new in 1988 and someone further down the line slaps fiberglass badly all over the rear quarter and didn’t even bother to rub it down, the things you see when you don’t have a gun!
So work that hadn’t really re-started on the e12 after I moved house stopped completely and I set to work on project B, I’m nothing if not under ambitious I started work on the B10 in earnest (a summary from summer 2010)As it says above I have actually started in earnest, I took two weeks off work and got the tools out. I removed all the front panels except the bonnet, which as with all taking to bits work was the easy bit. I removed all the front suspension and most of the steering. I found lots of rot on both inner wings, both outer wings are rubbish, a hole in the passenger side floor and both sills are like a patchwork quilt. So a pretty scary start, scarier was to come though.
I completed all the inner wing repairs which also entailed replacing the bumper mount and brake pipe mount on the drivers side.
I have put a plate in the floor on the passenger side and started cutting away at the mess that is the sill on the passenger side. The scarier part I mentioned earlier was to do with the petrol pipes that run under the car, whilst welding the floor I decided it would be prudent to remove the petrol pipes as I was getting very close to them with welders, grinders and all things hot and sparky plus they didn't look too clever. So putting my hand up around the tank to feel for their route they literally disintegrated in my hands and as you would expect started to deposit petrol everywhere. Anyway panic over and back to work, after looking over the sills my original idea had been to repair them, as pattern ones aren’t available in the UK as far as I can see and the originals come in 3 expensive parts. I did manage to find a German/Danish company that sold them as repair panels but they were still expensive. Once I had surveyed the true level of rot and previous repairs I decided to bite the bullet and ordered the pattern sills from Germany. This stopped the welding and grinding much to the happiness of my neighbors and I got on with quieter pursuits like treating and painting. I tend to go with layer overkill when painting a cars underbelly after I have repaired it, I treat the repair with waxoyl then a layer of stone chip paint and then a layer of smoothrite and finish off with the body schutz, all of which are applied as thick as I can get them, then if it’s the floor I under seal over it and if it’s the inner wings I add another layer of smoothrite and leave it nice and shiny which makes it easier to get the Bleep off once the cars back on the road. I have now started to re-condition the suspension and brakes, I am stripping the legs down and will be replacing all the arms and joints when it goes back together. The discs and pads look to be nearly new so can’t have had much use but will be replaced regardless. One of the original springs was snapped so I have bought a pair of secondhand legs from a B10 that has been scrapped which are the ones primarily I am re-furbing. I would re-assemble it all but I want to wait until the sills are on and as they arrived in the week, if the weather holds, out will come the welder and grinder again probably over the bank holiday weekend which is asking for a downpour I know.
At this point I decided after prompting from a friend that gives me far to much help that I wasn’t going to finish it in time for the summer and should drop back onto the e12 so that I could at least drive one of my cars. The amount of welding this car needed should be the subject of a blog all of it’s own but as my friend is the owner of an early Bay window camper we are not afraid of a bit of welding. I got a bit further with the B10 so update up to the 4th of October 2010Work and bad weather have hampered me quite a bit but I have managed to get the nearside inner sill repaired and the outer sill on. I have rebuilt the front suspension and steering and fitted that along with new
brake pipes and hoses. I have also fitted the front wing back on the nearside using my usual method of
treating the inside of the wing the same as the inner wings to stop the iron weevil getting a hold again.
I have also cut off the outer sill on the drivers side and found that a very poor repair had been done at the rear which involved welding the sill to the bush mounting plate because the inner was rotten, I think repairing it properly in the first place would have been better but whoever did it must have been in a bit of a rush.I had taken this week off work in the hope of getting the last of the reasonable weather but this has so far the weather has not been helpful. I did get the rear of the car up on stands and off the ramps so I could have a good poke about around the rear wheel tubs and suspension and apart from a little bit of surface hear and there it all looks pretty good so the sills and associated repairs should be the last of the welding.I hope to get all the welding finished this week and the rest of the front of the car re-assembled before I can start taking the rear suspension apart. One of the idiosyncrasies of owning an Alpina is that unless you can prove you own one you can’t buy any non cosmetic parts and I had a real struggle to get the log book out of DVLA.
I finally got my log book back from the DVLA so have managed to get a new plaque and B10 badges from Sytners and Walloth and Nesch, the rear badge is no longer listed with Sytners but it is with Walloth and Nesch. Both were very very helpful with Sytners sending me a copy of the cars build sheet and also explaining that one of the men involved in the cars build still worked there and remembered the car.
I had a good chat with the guy and he told what spec the car left them in when new which was very useful.
Work upto date May 2012 I finished all the front, both sets of cills and then got the car into the garage and dropped out the tank and dropped the prop, rear axle and suspension.I also bought a replacement rear arch for the nearside in the hope of rebuilding from the cill up and along the bottom edge of the rear quarter where it had been bodged.
I managed to pick up a new old stock complete rear quarter so decided in for a penny in for a pound, I had it in my head I could just do a partial re-spray and wouldn’t need to take the screens out but with replacing the complete rear quarter that’s what it has to be, glass out and more cutting and welding.
I have dropped the rear bumper off and the boot lid and done all the minor repairs needed around there.
The rear axle has mostly been refurbed now, the swing arms need to be done as does the anti roll bar then it all needs to be reassembled with new bushes and hoses.
But before that I want to get the screens out and the rear quarter changed which is the bit that’s daunting me most.
That’s where I am at the moment, and now the weather is hopefully starting to look up I can get my motivation back and get on with it. I hope
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